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		<title>C’mon in, Hannity — the waterboarding’s fine!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Swopa</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Via Raw Story, another media figure has had to learn the hard way that water torture &#8212; excuse me, waterboarding &#8212; really is torture, after all: Chicago radio host Erich &#8220;Mancow&#8221; Muller decided he&#8217;d get himself waterboarded to prove the technique wasn&#8217;t torture. It didn&#8217;t turn out that way. &#8220;Mancow,&#8221; in fact, lasted just six [...]]]></description>
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<p>Via <a href="http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/05/conservative-radio-hosts-waterboarded/">Raw Story</a>, another media figure has had to learn the hard way that water torture &#8212; excuse me, <em>waterboarding</em> &#8212; really is torture, after all:</p>
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<p>Chicago radio host Erich &#8220;Mancow&#8221; Muller decided he&#8217;d get himself waterboarded to prove the technique wasn&#8217;t torture. It didn&#8217;t turn out that way. &#8220;Mancow,&#8221; in fact, lasted just six or seven seconds before crying foul.</p>
<p>&#8230; &#8220;<b>It is way worse than I thought it would be</b>, and that&#8217;s no joke,&#8221; Mancow told listeners. [...]</p>
<p>&#8230; &#8220;<b>If I knew it was gonna be this bad, I would not have done it</b>,&#8221; he said.</div>
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<p>Mancow joins <a href="http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/08/hitchens200808">Christopher Hitchens</a> and <a href="http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/2009/05/mancow_gets_waterboarded.html">at least two other journalists</a> in learning what <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_05/018309.php">Steve Benen</a> points out should be obvious to anyone (&#8220;<em>If this wasn&#8217;t torture, we wouldn&#8217;t have done it</em>. The whole point is to do something so horrific that the detainee would feel compelled to give up information.&#8221;).  But even if this is the least efficient way in the world to teach people morals, maybe in these times we have to settle for what we can get.</p>
<p><a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/05/conservative-radio-host-has-himself-waterboard-to-prove-its-not-torture-realizes-he-was-wrong.php">Matt Yglesias</a> nominates Michael Goldfarb of the <em>Weekly Standard</em> to be next in line for personal education, but I think most of the rest of us would agree the most worthy &#8220;volunteer&#8221; is <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/22/hannity-offers-to-be-wate_n_190354.html">Sean Hannity</a> of Faux News.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;ll hasten to add that I understand those who argue that these grotesque experiments should stop. First of all, waterboarding is wrong.  It&#8217;s torture, and that&#8217;s nothing to joke about.  Even worse, the more people think of it as something that&#8217;s &#8220;cool&#8221; to try, the greater the odds that some teenager somewhere will do it carelessly and die.</p>
<p>Even so, there&#8217;s a point to calling the bluff of the posturing phonies who advocate torture publicly.  As anyone familiar with framing understands, the purpose of their argument is to shore up the right-wing pose of being <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/22/scarborough-few-good-men/">morally self-assured tough guys</a> who are willing to <a href="http://needlenose.com/wp/2009/05/15/the-cheney-gambit/">do what it takes to defend America</a>.</p>
<p>The truth, which isn&#8217;t brought up nearly often enough in the cable back-and-forth, is <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/17/they-just-dont-get-it-torture-and-the-gops-missing-moral-compass/">exactly the opposite</a>:  At a time when America was tested, these cowards folded, throwing in the hand on the precise values they <em>should</em> have been protecting.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not above rude tactics in pointing out their weakness, their irresponsibility, and their hypocrisy.   If Sean Hannity and others won&#8217;t back up their talk about waterboarding, I&#8217;m fine with humiliating them using the same derisive language they&#8217;ve been aiming at the left for years.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re cowards, and moral failures.  And they need to be told that to their faces.</p>
<p><em>(Cross-posted at <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2009/05/22/cmon-in-hannity-the-waterboardings-fine/">Firedoglake</a>.)</em></p>
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		<title>From the &#8216;No Shit, Sherlock&#8217; Department</title>
		<link>http://needlenose.com/wp/2008/07/08/from-the-no-shit-sherlock-department/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>greenboy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Warmonger and Shrubya Lovah Christopher Hitchens decides, after 10 seconds of &#8216;treatment,&#8217; that waterboarding is torture. I particularly liked the caption to this so-called &#8216;news&#8217; article: &#8220;Author and journalist Christopher Hitchens says it was difficult finding someone who would agree to waterboard a man of 60.&#8221; He obviously didn&#8217;t try too hard &#8211; I&#8217;d be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warmonger and Shrubya Lovah <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/arts/media/story/2008/07/08/waterboarding-hitchens.html">Christopher Hitchens decides, after 10 seconds of &#8216;treatment,&#8217; that waterboarding is torture</a>.  I particularly liked the caption to this so-called &#8216;news&#8217; article:</p>
<blockquote><p><span class="photo left" style="width: 232px;"><em>&#8220;Author and journalist Christopher Hitchens says it was difficult finding someone who would agree to waterboard a man of 60.&#8221;</em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>He obviously didn&#8217;t try too hard &#8211; I&#8217;d be happy to waterboard him!  Right after &#8216;boarding Limbaugh, Coulter, Savage, ad nauseum.  I guess the issue wasn&#8217;t finding somebody who would waterboard him though, but rather &#8211; somebody who would be willing to stop after only 10 seconds of what Limbaugh once termed &#8216;hazing.&#8217;</p>
<p>Does it strike you that Mr. Hitchens is in that twilight mode of any celebrity&#8217;s career, &#8220;struggling to stay relevant?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>More from the Department of Other Shoes Dropping</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Swopa</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I already wrote last month about the initial Abu Ghraib scandal being propelled by the inevitable release of other photographic and video evidence. Looks like it&#8217;s about to happen again. As Christopher Hitchens (of all people) writes in Slate: It is going to get much worse. The graphic videos and photographs that have so far been [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already wrote last month about the <a href=" http://needlenose.com/wp/2004/05/20/othershoes1/" target="_blank">initial Abu Ghraib scandal being propelled by the inevitable release of other photographic and video evidence</a>.</p>
<p>Looks like it&#8217;s about to happen again.  As <a href="http://politics.slate.msn.com/id/2102373/" target="_blank">Christopher Hitchens</a> (of all people) writes in Slate:<br />
<blockquote><em><strong>It is going to get much worse. The graphic videos and photographs that have so far been shown only to Congress are, I have been persuaded by someone who has seen them, not likely to remain secret for very long</strong>. And, if you wonder why formerly gung-ho rightist congressmen like James Inhofe (&#8220;I&#8217;m outraged more by the outrage&#8221;) have gone so quiet, it is because they have seen the stuff and you have not. There will probably be a slight difficulty about showing these scenes in prime time, but they will emerge, never fear. <strong>We may have to start using blunt words like murder and rape to describe what we see</strong>.</em></blockquote>Hitchens has been a shameless apologist for the war, so if he&#8217;s throwing out warnings like this, the evidence must be both truly awful and just about to hit the airwaves.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d advise not reading his full article, though, unless you&#8217;d like too much information about Hitchens&#8217; idle daydreams involving Osama bin Laden and pigs.  (He does make a worthwhile point, though, about torture being a worthless interrogation technique, as demonstrated by the British experience with Irish Republican Army terrorists.  Just, uh, skip over the Osama part.)</p>
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